Donald MCDONALD & Isabel MALCOLM
Father: Donald MCDONALD, (son of John MCDONALD), b. ABT 1782, Denoon Glammis, d. 19 Oct 1855, Glamis Angus Scotland
Familysearch ancestral file. states Donald was born in Old Mains. Note Old Mains is the area formerly known as Straithmartine and is now called Straithmartine and Mains However on his death certificate it looks like Denoon Glamis is listed as place of birth, Parents proved on death certificate as John McDonald and Emilie McDonald sometimes listed as Amelia. .The index confirms this as Donalds place of birth and indeed Denoon is a village in Glamis. Birth record date of 1787 is a little different than when , Grandpa Donald's age is given as 69 in 1851 Census making his birth year closer to 1782. In 1841 census same area Hayston Glamis he gives his age as 55 making his birth year around 1786. When he dies in 1855 he gives his age as 74 which would make his birth year in 1782, I have used that date on his individual record. . Marriage date for Isabel Malcolm and Donald is Aug 4 1805 Kettins parish Angus Scotland..Marriage info direct from parish record Kettins. 1805. “Donald McDonald in this parish and Isabel Malcom in the parish of Dundee proclaimed pro 1mo, 2do, and 3tio, Augt. 4th.” Donald was a labourer . Donald dies on Oct 19 1855 and cause of death lists no medical attendant which means he died before a doctor could be called and there were no ongoing symptoms that the family reported. He probably died of a heart attack or stroke in his sleep. . He dies in Cottertown of Hayston. which is in Glamis parish and he is listed as buried in Glamis churchyard. Interestingly only in 1855 does a death certificate detail issue or children , showing how old they are in 1855 and if they predeceased Donald.According to this , it appears that out of 10 children only two boys Peter and John were still alive in 1855, Maybe Alexander lived , it says his age is blurred in the crease of the document. While daughter Isabel does not have a dec by her name, it lists her as 9. IF she had lived until 1855 she is nowhere near 9 years old , she was born in 1819 which would make her 36 years old. probably she died at 9 and they forgot to put a dec by her name or it was illegible as such.Other children of Isabel Malcolm and Donald McDonald have their death dates verfied by Donald's death certificate.Donald on 1834 Scotland census below entire census Glamis Parish Heads of Families in the Parish of Glamis in Communion with the Church of Scotland, December 1834. Note all names were included for future reference if any turn out to be later ancestors.and this list may disappear from online. Donald can be located among the few families in Hayston parish. GLAMIS VILLAGE David Couper James Alexander Archibald Rea James Bunch William Blackadder David Stormonth William Carey Robert Muir David Irons Thomas Donaldson James Johnston Thomas Doig Alexander Stevenson David Penman James Reid David Baillie James Shepherd John Johnston Andrew Robb John Reid William Johnston Donald Coutts George Nicoll James Abbott Henry Ostler William Craig Christian Coutts James Gray David Miller William Donald James McIntyre John Johnston John Robertson John Wright John Greenhill jun David Rankin Thomas Sturrock William Fariweather William Greenhills Robert Stoall Alexander Kidd William Waddell James Horn David Kinnear Peter Heigh John Watson John Bumman John Kinnear James Duncan William McDonald Donald Reach Thomas Winter John Greenhill sen John Johnston William Gibson Robert McDOnald David Laird George Luckie James Bunch James Tough William Heigh John Langlands William Gibson John Doig John Barnet GLEN OF OGILVY William Fairweather James Chalmers James Hill Alexander Hill William Stiven John Smith David Ramsay John Glendy William Donaldson Andrew Thom Robert Bowes Samuel Mortimer Alexander Cathro William Chalmers William Fernes James Mortimer James Watt Alexander Chaplin Andrew Suttie James Rea George Smith Andrew Osler John Taylor William Harels James Forbes William Drummond David Nicoll Alexander Chaplin David Couper James Mackie David Gibson Thomas Edward David Donald Peter Meek John Gibson James Laird William Valentine John Gow Alexander Cruikshanks James Young, Latch James Bower James Roger Robert Lamond David Thomson James Allan John Hill Peter Duff James Watson James Falconer John Stiven James Gibson Thomas Davidson Thomas Barnet James WhyteCHARLESTON John Dick James Mustard William Couper John Langlands Benny Ramsay George Monroe John Suttie Alexander Hay George Buchan Alexander Wright James Suttie Robert Suttie John Buchan James Mavor James Linn David Bennet John McDonald Alexander Bruce James Mollison Peter Livingston William Abbot Samuel Mortimer William Watt David Donald NEWTON Alexander Barrie Benjamin Hogg Charles Neave James Barrie Alexander Petrie Robert Simpson John Bennet Alexander McKiddie George McKiddie David Taylor James Hall James Farquhar John Mollison John Chisholm John Lindsay David Johnston Thomas Abbott John McKiddie Alexander Mustard John Robbie David McKiddie Charles Inverdale John Anderson James Young Alexander Taylor Andrew Hunter James Watson William Pickard Hugh McKiddie James Chisholm DENOON John Bennet James Bennet Thomas Neave James Fraser John McLeod Alexander Fox HAYSTON John Smith esq David Grant Donald McDonald William Small James Langlands Peter Deuachars John Donaldson David Couper, Scroggd David Will GRASSHOUSE (later Jericho) George Mollinson David Elder George Mill David Clark Robert Ramsay Alexander Davidson James Blacklaws David Johnston William Johnston John Ramsay William Davidson John Graham PLANS OF THORNTON John Graham John Osler John Luckie George Kidd William Kidd David Kidd David Johnston David Stewart James Lowden Chalres Patterson Alexander Rattray Robert Whitton Alexander Johnston THORNTON Thomas Mitchell William Wilkie David Nicoll Henry Rea John Mungo George Johnston Andrew Rough John Paterson William Horn David Stormonth William Johnston Claypots Robert Aldie Peter Miller John More GATESIDE Peter Miller James Bruce Charles Chalmers Charles Mill James Miller George Gray Alexander Kidd Thomas Bruce William Mann LEYS OF COSSIN John Allardice John Young George Allardice William Rea Benjamin Robertson David Crabb James Rattray James Lindsay James Robertson William Robertson John Low Adam Hay Alexander Robertson Alexander Lawson Haughs of Cossins James Gibson Charles Malloch John DumberDRUMGLEY James Dair David Pullar John Reoch William Malloch Alexander Bennet Alexander Brown George Ritchie Alexander Donaldson William Donaldson Charles Ritchie James Jackson David Ross James Ritchie, sen John Ritchie William Fairweather David Johnston James Ritchie David Smith
1841 Census for Donald and Isabel: SCT1841/289 Place: Glammis-Angus Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Glammis Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 6 Page: 10 Address: Hayston
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCDONALD Donald M 55 Labourer Angus MCDONALD Isabell F 55 AngusMCDONALD Martha F 20 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Angus MCDONALD Donald M 15 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Angus SMITH John M 8 Male Servant Angus Top of Form 1
Bottom of Form 1 Top of Form 2 1851 andHayston Upper, Parish of Glammis :
Peter McDonald / Head / Marr / 39 / Labourer, Farm / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. Margaret McDonald / Wife / Marr / 30 / b. Forfarshire, Alyth. Donald McDonald / Son / Unm / 12 / Scholar / b. Forfarshire, Glammis Alexander McDonald / Son / Unm / 10 / Scholar / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. Peter McDonald / Son / 8 / Scholar / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. James McDonald / Son / 7 / Scholar / b. Forfarshire, Glammis David McDonald / Son / 5 / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. Andrew McDonald / Son / 3 / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. John McDonald / Son / 10m / b. Forfarshire, Glammis. Donald McDonald / Grandfather / Widr. / 69 / Retired Labourer / b. Forfarshire, Glammis . Death info Died Oct 19 , 1855 in Glamis parish 74 years old. This info is taken from Moinkie parish site where info is directly transcribed from actual records. 367 367 Glamis 289/0037 19 Oct 1855 Donald McDonald 74 John McDonald Emlie McDonald Isabella Malcolm
Mother: Isabel MALCOLM, (daughter of John MALCOLM), b. 1788, Old Mains Angus Scotland, d. Aft 1841 prior to 1851
Only an about date is available for Isabel Malcolm's birth year around 1788. She is also listed as having been born in Old Mains.on a Family Search ancestral file. She is listed in Hayston Hill Glammis Scotland with her husband Donald McDonald in 1841 census. She is listed at that time as 55 years old making her born around 1786 not far off the ancestral file about date on Family Search submission. However new info from the Tay Valley Historical society confirms that she does not live beyond 1851 as she is not on this census at all and her husband Donald is listed as a 69 year old widower living with his son Peter and family. Therefore an about date of death can now read later than 1841 prior to 1851. Her parentage is the best possible as no death certificate is available and her marriage listing in parish gives no parents listed. Best possible is based on area, and other excellent clues. John Malcolm and Isabel Patterson are married in Dundee where Isabel is listed as from on her parish marriage record. Also the name Patterson is later chosen by a grandchild Andrew Paterson as a middle name. and also another grandchild John Paterson McDonald is born with that middle name. However, her parents may also be a couple named William Malcolm and Christian Smart who also have daughters named Helen and Isabel. While there is no middle name connection as with Paterson, Isabel does name an older son William. Also Helen Malcolm listed as being born to John Malcolm and Isabel Patterson marries a man named Peter Croll. Isabel Malcolm names a child Peter Croll, which would have been in honoring her brother in law, Helen's husband and this was very, very commonly done. So many clues fit the couple of Isabel Paterson and John Malcolm as being her parents.
Married 18 Aug 1805, Kettins Dundee Angus Scotland
Children:
- Margaret MCDONALD, b. 1806 or 1807, Glamis Angus Scotland, d. about 1813 or 1814
- Jane MCDONALD, b. 1807 or 1808, Glamis Angus Scotland, d. About 1851 or 1852
- William MCDONALD, b. ABT 1808/1809, d. Abo1826 or 1827
- Peter Croll MCDONALD, b. 3 Sep 1810, Hayston Angus Scotland, d. 30 Mar 1877, Old Monkland Whifflet Lanarkshire
- John MCDONALD, b. 19 Aug 1812, Hayston Glamis Angus
- David MCDONALD, b. Feb 1815, Hayston Angus Scotland, d. ABT 1850
- Martha MCDONALD, b. 21 May 1817, Hayston Angus Scotland, d. 23 Nov 1844
- Isabel MCDONALD, b. 20 Nov 1819, d. ABT 1828
- Alexander MCDONALD, b. 18 Apr 1822, Hayston Angus Scotland
- Daniel MCDONALD, b. 22 Sep 1824, Hayston Angus Scotland, d. ABT 1842